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Makes you wonder if we just approached a few of the things they ways it suggests what would be the result?

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It seems like I've encountered most of this advice before. In listening to stories on NPR, I hadn't caught on to the fact that ChatGPT contributed knowledge. Wow! Still... In the Metalogues in Angels Fear, Mary Catherine Bateson is talking to her father's ghost (taking the opportunity to bust his chops for leaving her with the task of finishing HIS book.) At one point he begins, "I don't think I ever told you about..." and she answers that he doesn't get to add anything new. He can only refer to things he's already told her. (Everything is a tautology for the Batesons, and ghosts can come up with new theorems, but not axioms.) Later, she tells him about a room where her mother, Margaret Mead, speaks to visitors. MCB says that the ghost behaves like Margaret, but can't respond with any but very general advice. ChatGPT is like Margaret Mead's ghost, it can't come up with anything new, maybe something you and I haven't heard about, because it can read faster than we do, but it will never make any real discoveries. (And I don't think "stigmatized" is quite the right word.)

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All ChatGPT can do is regurgitate and reformulate things that already exist. It has no ability to reason and no genuine creativity. You won't get any answer that hasn't already been presented. The answers you get will be the ones most commonly presented, given in a very calm and rational voice, and edited to exclude anything the programmers consider bad manners.

That doesn't make the advice bad. It might be perfectly good advice. But sometimes outside the box thinking is needed. If that's the case, Chat GPT is designed to be a good "inside the box" advisor and won't help so much.

There are people who live to try to trick ChatGPT into saying bad things.

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Fred, as I said to Tom, most of us know how to answer these questions. But we're "experts". This could be useful to others who know much less about naturism. Even to those who don't like the idea. With just a few good questions, a newbie could get standard answers without spending hours searching for naturist information. More complex questions can be based on previous answers to clarify anything that's unclear or to go into more detail. And there may be a few ideas that even "experts" haven't thought of. Asking a series of questions can generate new ideas in the mind of the questioner. "What would happen if I did this....?"

Think about how things work in the classroom. The lecturer talks for awhile, then students can ask for more details about specific points. And if the first response isn't clear enough, they can ask for more. Suppose you wanted to know about fun things to do on a trip to Paris. You get some suggestions. Then you ask for more details about whatever seems most interesting to you. Or maybe you'll realize you'd rather visit Madrid instead. The chatbot knows as much about Madrid, so you don't need to look elsewhere for answers.

Have you ever read a FAQ at some website and been frustrated because it didn't clear up something you were really curious about.

As far as trying to get the chatbot to say bad things, that may be "fun", but it has nothing to do with getting usable information.

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Mar 10, 2023·edited Mar 10, 2023

This is interesting, the answers seem much more relevant than some other examples that I've seen to questions posed to ChatGPT in other fields. Much of it may be useful, but there is nothing new IMO. ChatGPT and similar developments have been trawling the internet for some time, seeking knowledge, information, views etc on every subject (very likely including your blog posts on naturism and any of the subsequent comments). This response reads to me like an amalgamation of the reasonably 'sensible' and not very contentious or progressive articles out there on how to encourage newcomers to naturism to join in on our way of life. Much of the information has been copied despite it being covered by things like copyright, it is another 'disruptive' technology, with both good and bad potential. This is a quite bland response, as if it is homogenized. It may encourage some newbie nudies, but it doesn't create a very exciting picture IMO. How will it entice younger people into socialising naked? Without them the future of both nude beaches and clubs are threatened. In the results to questions on other subjects the tendency seems to be to respond at a middle ground level, that might not necessarily be a bad thing in some areas but it could lead to the world being a more boring place. Much like shopping malls around the world flog very similar things ('fashions'/trends that are often influenced by the big tech monsters' platforms, monsters who are also frequently behind a lot of AI, or they buy it up if it seems to be a threat to their business model). Where are the ground-breaking and novel approaches that seem to have been behind much of the better historical developments in humankind's 'progress'?

ChatGPT asks "Please note that phone verification is required for signup. Your number will only be used to verify your identity for security purposes." A lot of people who are concerned about taking their data security seriously won't take this at face value. Some of the businesses behind ChatGPT have not treated personal data as being 'personal' in the past, do leopards change their spots?! Also, if you use a VPN or other means to 'confuse' data collectors ChatGPT is hosted on Cloudflare, so unless you take steps to 'play along' with that company's very annoying data collection methods (what they term as verification) you'll not get onto the ChatGPT site very easily. As touched on above ChatGPT can't think or be emotive, new developments need thinking that is outside of the box, not regurgitating the same old same old....

G**gle are concerned about the rapid and supposedly successful take-up of ChatGPT and is consequently concerned about the ability of those backing it (Microserf/Amizon etc) to become stronger rivals in building the worlds data bank, G**gle wants to retain dominance in trading our data. Give them your phone number and it can be linked quite easily to that person who comments on this blog as 'naked person in Wyoming/Almeria...' and you thought you'd not be outed as a potential nudist?! Just like I will be as that person who not only prefers to be naked but disses big tech too. They already know our phone numbers, despite whatever steps we may have taken to try to deny them this. Data Privacy laws? What are a string of $10,000,000 fines to Fakebook etc?

Dare anyone ask ChatGPT what is the future of naturism/nudism?

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Thanks for sharing this article! I’ve been using chatGPT rather a lot the last few months, even using it in writing articles for planet nude (there’s a blurb about this on our about page). I’m reminded of the Steve Jobs quote about a computer being a bicycle for the mind. ChatGPT can not do to the work for you--it is a very bad writer--but it can enable you to better grasp, explore, and go further to present an idea. It cannot replace the writer, but it can empower a good writer. I still have to go over every sentence and rewrite, rewrite, rewrite. I have to fall back on my own writerly skills and voice, and make sure that everything I put out there is entirely my own words, but it makes the process easier and faster. I’ve also used it in my job, helping to format tonally challenging emails to clients overdue on payment. I’ve used it in my volunteering on AANR committees, even once writing a PR guideline to present, which our committee was struggling to pull together. To the point of Charles’ original post, what it helped assemble was mostly common sense. Our committee would have eventually written the same thing. But it saved us hours and hours of endless back and forth, and enabled us to have some new discussion and get more done. I think many people still don’t quite understand how to use the technology... I see people treat it like google, asking it questions to answer like a parlor trick. It’s not meant for that, and lacking a resource to answer a question, chatGPT will bullshit its way through an answer, even making facts up. Instead I think of it more like a processor. I feed it information, starting with an idea, pasting in facts, dates, my own writing, other relevant articles and text, then prompt it to help me format it back the way I envision it so that I can take it into a word processor and rewrite it all over again. There are many ethical questions it presents which are also fascinating. It can enable one person to do dramatically more work in the day. Will this result in workforce reductions by large firms? Inevitably. Will it also empower small businesses and individuals in new ways? Yes. AI is already changing the world, and will continue to... beyond chatGPT I’ve also begun using AI in other applications of my work. When I record a podcast, I use AI to transcribe it and then I edit the transcription. I’ve even begun using one AI tool which has learned my voice and can replicate it to match based on a text prompt. So if I flub a line in a recorded podcast, I can actually fix it without having to re-record. I’ve also used AI to upscale images to make thumbnail photos for the blog or podcast (some here might have seen a recent post about Doris Wishman-- the image in use was very pixelated and low resolution before AI helped me blow it up.) These tools are becoming more and more ubiquitous, and can both compete with and empower the creative artist depending on their use. All in all, I find the whole thing pretty interesting, scary and exciting!

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It's always good to use new technologies & not only for the cause of naturism but for the betterment of every human aspects. The AI, as said in it's name itself, is just a mere intelligence. Yes, it can help us in many ways. However it cannot surpass the human intelligence as the human intelligence is a mix of brain plus heart combination.

As naturism is not a common topic among the societies, especially where the the naturism is illegal, this AI will surely help naturists to get answers about the naturism. I am definitely going to ask ChatGPT as to where in India I can get a print edition of a book "The Complete Guide to Nudism, Naturism & Nudists", written by James Egger & Liz Egger. I can get it's kindle edition at Amazon India. However I am looking for it's print edition only. I am not getting the answer for this, at Google.

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Wrong answer to "What is the law on public nudity in England" ... In England, public nudity is generally illegal under the Sexual Offences Act 2003. Section 66 of the Act makes it an offence for a person intentionally to expose their genitals in a public place or within sight of a public place with the intention of causing someone to see them and to be caused alarm or distress. This offence is known as "outraging public decency".

The offence carries a maximum sentence of six months imprisonment and/or a fine. However, the actual penalty will depend on the circumstances of the case, including the level of distress caused to others and the offender's intention.

There are some exceptions to the law on public nudity in England. For example, it is generally acceptable to be nude on a designated naturist beach or at a private residence where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. However, even in these situations, it is still possible to be prosecuted if the nudity causes alarm or distress to others.

It's also worth noting that in some cases, public nudity could also fall under other offences, such as indecent exposure or disorderly conduct, depending on the specific circumstances.... I've sent a correction quoting College of Policing guidelines!

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True. Digital zoom isn't the same as optical zoom. When cameras were new things 150 years ago, they didn't take very good pictures either.

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